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Most evil men see themselves as rightious.

It's Friday, Lanny is in town, It's my last day of having to support 270 users all by myself... the weeks is over. I have been in a funk all day. All these good things are arriving but I can't focus on them. There are tons of things I should be doing, things I have to do before I leave work today but I can't concentrate on anything other than the horrible news I read this morning about the two kids (and they were only children) who were murdered by the Iranian government for being gay.

The poor kids spent the last 14 months of the short lives in jail waiting to be killed. I keep thinking that could have been me and what would I have wanted to do in the last year of my life. Would I be able to read the books I always planned to read? Would I be allowed to talk with my family? It's all just too horrible to put myself into those shoes and yet I can't stop.

I'm sorry but murder is murder, be it in the name God, lust, greed or any of my other beloved deadly sins. It's interesting that most murders are committed because of one of the sins or God. Does that make God a sin in an abstract way? I am beginning to think that for some people God is one of their deadly sins, they leave all logic and peace behind to reap the havoc they believe their God has empowered them to do. I find it hard to believe that so many people are stupid enough to believe that god loves them more than his other children and wants them to murder his other kids... what kind of crazy parent would want that. I'm sure we all agree that kind of parent shouldn't be allowed to have kids.


Empty House - Air - The Virgin Suicides (Soundtrack)

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singleentendre
Jul. 23rd, 2005 02:01 am (UTC)
That's the worst thing I've seen in a long time. What a bunch of animals.
singleentendre
Jul. 23rd, 2005 02:17 am (UTC)
But I can't say I'm much better because I'd like to see everyone involved in the murder killed.
romeohotel
Jul. 23rd, 2005 03:01 am (UTC)

romeohotel
2005-07-23 02:59 (link)
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Eric, i've seen this both ways.

1) they were having consentual sex, either together or with the 13-year old boy mentioned in the article

and

2) they were raping the 13-year old, and then confessed to having sex with each other in prison.

If it was rape, hang the fuckers higher than Haman. I don't care how young they are - raping somebody is about the worst thing you can do to somebody. I had just a taste, and . . . there's no real way you can say how you feel. how violated and unclean and . . . . If they did that, I hope they died very slowly, and their victim gets some measure of peace from this.

If it wasn't, I hope someday the bastards running Iran get overthrown and then their victims gets their hands on these bastards and does something really painful to them. There's some poetic justice in charging them under their own laws for murder and apostacy (since islam is a religion of peace, and you're supposed to CARE for widows and orphans, not MAKE them - their interpretation is as base a perversion as I can find) and then imposing their own penalties for it.

Either way, I think we make God feel very sad some days. and this is one of them.
cheerfulchaotic
Jul. 23rd, 2005 06:00 am (UTC)
As someone else who's had a taste of rape, I have to disagree with you. Torture, mutilation, and murder are all things that are considerably worse than rape in my mind. I know some people disagree with me, but this is a no brainer to my mind.
romeohotel
Jul. 23rd, 2005 06:36 am (UTC)
I dunno about that.

At least in my case, he was horny, and I was just a plaything to him - something to be used and discarded. I wasn't human, I wasn't real - i was a toy for his sick games.

I don't think murder and mutilation have that same distinct feel of being so . . . I don't know how to describe it. Most people don't get a sick feeling of pleasure from murder - although some do.

Torture, though - isn't there a line about wht to do with your torturers when they start to enjoy their work? There, I agree with you - it's got that same sick current of pleasure in taking away someone else's control over their body, their mind, and using it, using them, for your own gratification, whatever they think about it.

Perhps rape is a form of torture?
neoprimal22
Jul. 25th, 2005 04:13 pm (UTC)
I agree with you, having been raped when I was 14, I would never wish upon the people who raped me murder, torture or death. I'm not gonna go into some righteous speech, but I will say that it is horrendous to see another human being wish those things on someone despite what they have done.
sisyphus238
Jul. 23rd, 2005 03:48 am (UTC)
This thing has left me speechless also. I can't get my head around the kind of thinking that says adhering to an ideology is more important than a human life; that a living, breathing being is somehow less important than some distorted notion of what is right. These same people profess acceptance of Abraham who was told to sacrifice his son who was then "spared". It's all such archaic bullshit and it frustrates me no end. It heartless and beastly behavior and it's the fucking 21st century and in so many ways we never left the dark ages.
grubbybastard
Jul. 23rd, 2005 06:26 am (UTC)
On a positive note: yay Lanny! : )
ewe_2
Jul. 25th, 2005 01:25 pm (UTC)
These are the reasons I don't believe in God. Because if there was one. He/She would not allow these things to happen.

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neoprimal22
Jul. 25th, 2005 04:26 pm (UTC)
Well, I wish I could have 24 hours to sit down with you and explain my point of view on this, but I don't and I won't go into some self righteous speech about “God,” but I will say this; I was taught that God gave man one gift and one gift alone and that is free will! We are not his puppets and things like these happen to show us how far some groups are from him and his teachings. And if you don’t believe in “God” I truly hope you believe in something greater then yourself.
ewe_2
Jul. 25th, 2005 05:24 pm (UTC)
If you believe then that's all that should matter. I happen to not.

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